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amricane
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Posted on 07-04-08 2:56
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I am not supporter of King. I was also one of them who Shout "Ganatantra Nepal-Jindabad Jindabad" in 17 days Aandolan.
but whats going on nation right now, parties are fighting and playing game of POWER. Madhesi are trying to seperate the Terai from whole nation. Each parties are shouting for their leadership. Expensesness has cross the limit. Robbery, Murder, kidnap are incresing in nation. Nation is moving on the condition like Iraq, nothing stable.
Yes, once there was a king who does the major decisions (don't go on right or wrong now). After he make a Sambhodhan we accept (or forced to acceept ) what happen in nation like re-establishment of Parliament, democracy, etc... now what ???? what if tomorrow Upendra Yadav decide to seperate from Nepal and make Madesh a seperate nation ( I think as they want ) ? Who is there to stop them and talk in behalf of the truth, there is no government in nepal no state head and not any stable political situation?
Maoist, as we thought , start to run after the power, Congress, UML are same shit of Nepalese Politics. Now who is going to take care of nepal.
I was taught from child , KING , DAD and FIRE are never small , was the step to kick the King ( I am not talking about Gyanendra, I am talking about the Monarchy ) right?
When King was there at least there was fear for everyone, to do something. But now who cares whom and who the shit will obey and order whom. No one wants to be less or powerless.
Did our step was right to abolish king, think again guys. Don't goes on 5-6 years of Gyane-regime. Think about the Monarchy and all the Political situation of Nepal..
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deshbhaktanepali
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Posted on 07-04-08 5:10
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The current facts about Nepal is worring me. There is no government in Nepal for last few months because Ministers of UML resigned within few days after election which were never approved by Prime Minister, the Maoist Ministers resigned last week which were never presented to Prime Minister and as far as I know, even Prime Minister GP Koirala resigned last week ( I am not sure to whom and who approves it).
Secondly, there is no law in Nepal because law cannot exist without consititutional framework and as far as I know, the last consititution of Nepal was the one of 2048 BS which was technically scappred the day King reinstated the Parliament against the consititution. And the new consititution has not been drawn yet. So, the laws that are currently existing in Nepal are merely based on politial understanding between some big and small gundas. It is just that a majority of Nepali are still peace loving people and want to work their living as such there is still not much of anarcy on the street.
Thirdly, there is no legitimate head of Armed and Police force in Nepal. The King used to be the Supreme Commander of Army but he is no more now and there is some rumour that President will be the Supreme Commander of Army. I believe for that to happen we will need to have a President first. And as far as I know, we don't have one yet. Similarly, Police and Armed force is under home ministery and we have a Home Minister who lost his own constituency in the CA election and the government is headed by Prime Minister who has already resigned. As such, there is no proper and legitimate authority to direct and coordinate the activities of Police, armed force and army in the country if needed.
Last but not the least, today is already Asar 19th and this FY is going to end in fortnight. If the budget is not presented and approved by some kind of understanding among these political parties (we voted them) I am wondering what will happen next??? What will happen if the government is unable to issue salaries to its employees (teachers, police, bank employees, doctors, army) for a week or a month??????? Any one wants to elaborate on this.........
Welcome to New Nepal we were demanding for centuries.
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Khairey
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Posted on 07-04-08 5:37
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kaji sahab
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Posted on 07-04-08 8:13
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i was always in the support of monarchy and will always be.it does not matter to me whether the king is in power. how could nepalese people repeat the mistakes again when we saw what happened during the democratic era of 14 years in nepal. the infrastrructure of today were in fact built in the panchayat kaal in nepal and nepal acquired more debt during the 14 years of democratic period than the whole time combined of panchayat period.
nothings gonna change untill we have the same old leaders. girija le chhai lauda bechna huna...chhori lai ticket diyera mantri banauna hune but king had not done anything like that???
nepal is heading on to the path of civil war.always wanted to return back to nepal after my studies but looks like i will have to force myself to live my life here in foreign land. thank you SOB!!!!
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syd_acid
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Posted on 07-05-08 12:27
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kaji saheb bhayepachi ta tyeti garnai paro ni hoina................lol
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syd_acid
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Posted on 07-05-08 12:28
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kaji saheb bhayepachi ta tyeti garnai paro ni hoina................lol
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syd_acid
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Posted on 07-05-08 12:29
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kaji saheb bhayepachi ta tyeti garnai paro ni hoina................lol
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MadDoGG
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Posted on 07-05-08 10:31
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KARMA .....THE WHEEL OF LIFE........do you believe that what ever comes around goes around. Well first of all I have not seen any fault in our KING from day one he took over. He did all the right moves to sack the corrupt government and unleashed the army on the Maoists.............What did the maoist and the political parties do.............THEY FORMED AN ALLIANCES by the help of INDIA In India and started a campagain to obstruct the kings Peace effort so they increased their attacks and pressure and dirty politics against the king to make him FAIL BIG TIME. Every effort by the king was disruppted by the indian led propoganda against the king who had warned the Indian Prime minister in The SAARC meeting to stay out of Nepals Internal matters. Our King was trying to get Nepal out of the Grip of India and improving ties with China so we open China trade instead of India trade......AND INDIA couldnt stand it and INVESTED a lot of money in arming the maoists and funding riots in Nepal......everyone knows that TRUCKS AND BUS LOADS OF people swarmed KTM for the roits and maoists threatened everyone to feed and house them. YCL started to intensify the instability and called peoples war so the KINGS IMAGE IN THE INTERNATIONAL community was pasted bad by all Indian controlled Media. They called him a dictator......He wasnt a dictator..he had the army and could have easily ordered a marshall law and started a military coup in Nepal like in burma .....but many people were to die if he choose that route.....and if he was a monster to have killed his brother to come to power.................WHY would he step down to avoid another nepalese bloodshed.......ANY power hungry Tyrant would not do that after such an ultimate sacrifice would they???? and fug the intl community, they havent donr anything in N korea, Burma, cuba etc where millions are suffering........they can just sanction and pressure. BUT OUR king has given up everything in the name of PEOPLES CHOICE....or is it ??????? Im a citizen....I want our King ..No body asked us or was an election to decide the fate of our king........HEY Before this ... The spa and the maoists was supported by the Indians to kick the king out and they were the trouble makers. NOW the Madhesh is supported by the INDIANS to give the SPA and the Maoists a run for their money to create a goverment and peace.....BUT the indians will support the madhes leaders to obstruct any government . ..LOL now they know what the king went through...........THEY WANT NEPAL TO BREAK DOWN so they can claim it. ........as for who can save us from this ..........NO DOUBT OUR KING..........HE IS OUR HOPE AND I BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE OF NEPAL ARE SLOWLY SEEING THE REAL PICTURE OF THESE POLITICIANS.....and WHEN ITS TIME....... THE KING WILL BE BACK.....and the people of nepal will bring him back.
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Posted on 07-05-08 10:45
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Civil Was is looming over Nepal... Tharus and other indigenous groups are now on street to protest One Madhesh, One Pradhes... It's all India.. who is running shows in Nepal.
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MadDoGG
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Posted on 07-05-08 10:56
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It will start soon and surely bro ...civil war which will cost millions to die by the rage created by these Indian leaders to kill Nepali against Nepali. A carnage these leaders will enjoy for power and money. ALL SPA MAOISTS AND THE MADHES LEADERS ARE THE PAWNS OF INDIA.......and they are under Indian dirty politics spell......RAW..........the onely person India could not buy was our KING and for that he is out of his throne.......I wonder HOW DEEP IS INDIAN POWER ROOTED IN NEPAL?????...When The king wanted more trade with China and less with India......we all know what hapened to our KING........Is it peoples choice to be India???
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deshbhaktanepali
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Posted on 07-05-08 11:09
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Hey guys...do any of you know where did LooTeKukur disappear??? Did he die of rabies??? He was very excited about removal of King. I want to know if he still stand by his arguement.
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MadDoGG
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Posted on 07-05-08 11:14
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Or all the anti king people.......they are pretty quite now a days almost non exixting.......DEFEND YOUR ACTIONS YOU MAOIST AND SPA SUPPORTS.............
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kaji sahab
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Posted on 07-05-08 2:51
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ones political ideas are shaped by various factors and mine are not exception!!! i am in support of the monarchy becasue my family history ties to that from generations ago and with the army as well. call me anything you want but you cant change my idealogy nor can you weaken it. i see king as the father and the people of the country as his children.sometimes father has to act strict to bring the children in line and thats what the king did. i dont say that he did everthing right but he took steps that were necessary. since there is no king, our country had become "tuhuro" without father thats why the political parties are acting like dalal of india and trying to rape and sell the country.
bau le ek thappad hanyo bhandai ma bau lai nai bancharo hanne kura aaudaina.
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MadDoGG
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Posted on 07-05-08 7:12
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I second that kaji sahab.....I have and will always support the monarchy of Nepal. I believe that our Mornarchy Holds the symbol unity in Nepal and all Nepalese. Now its become free for all criminals to do whatever in our beloved Kingdom. There is a reason why and how a country with such diverse culture and tradition existed in peace and harmony, IT WAS OUR KING. THE GLUE OF ALL NEPALESE TO UNITE. People claim discrimination and racial issues......well Its a universal problem. AND like every where it was getting better in time AND now a reason to break Nepal into pieces because The monarchial institution has been villianized by a group of master minded Criminals and Murdereres. Before Nepal was not so mordernized nor was is educated.....but for the last decade........Intercaste marriage was getting accepted more and more and people living in Mixed communities. BUT NOW its starting to BREAK
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amricane
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Posted on 07-05-08 9:38
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great guys, we all supports the king somehow as we are irritated from this Fu*king situation than who was on the Pratinidhi shava to decide to abolish the KING.
Indian Agents, shit of nepalese politics, aatankakari ( I prefer nepalese word to describe the Maoist), or whom... we didn't did this for this kind of NAYA NEPAL...
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prabhat k
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Posted on 07-05-08 10:17
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removal of monarchy ( not the king) is probably the worst Nepal has seen. For now, Nepal's existence is in danger than never before. I m still proud to say Nepal was never occupied , but these traitor leaders ????.....
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prabhat k
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Posted on 07-05-08 10:23
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Gyanendra did take some wrong moves but it pales when we see these politicians who r setting an example as how to sell one's country and how to destroy it for personal gains.
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Posted on 07-06-08 2:30
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"I was also one of them who Shout "Ganatantra Nepal-Jindabad Jindabad" in 17 days Aandolan. but whats going on nation right now, parties are fighting and playing game of POWER. Madhesi are trying to seperate the Terai from whole nation. Each parties are shouting for their leadership. Expensesness has cross the limit. Robbery, Murder, kidnap are incresing in nation. Nation is moving on the condition like Iraq, nothing stable." americane
You wanted Republic, that's what you got. Stop whining. You have lost the moral ground to complain. By your own admission, you supported the politicians in full awareness of their past records. Now face the music. Oh, BTW, Zimbabwe is also a Republic.
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Posted on 07-06-08 2:36
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absolutely bad. we'll realize how bad it was after couple of years.
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Posted on 07-06-08 4:37
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In my class there is
a significant number of people from different countries and when
government teacher asked all the students about our country's history
I was proud to say that
was never occupied by any foreign nation (and she is the only country
that was never occupied). The teacher was more surprised to learn
that we were able to hold the British at the borders (well with
a disappointing treaty at the end though) when giant India and
many others failed. I believe that Nepali Janata then were so much
loyal to Nepal and Monarchy that they stood before mighty cannons
risking their lives with bare Gurkha Knives. Now the case is
different. If US or Britain offers
citizenship to the CA leaders they will certainly go for it even if
they have to sell Nepal or sign treaty not favorable to Nepal. King
was the only person in Nepal who would have said that if there is Nepal then
only I will be King of Nepal. Gyanendra left the palace hashi-khusi.
He is still happy to live in Nepal (His son is a bad fruit which we
all know and this doesn't apply to him) How many of Us can say that they would be Nepalese even if
they get offers from rich countries to be citizen , well at least I can't and
I think many of US cant say that. Nepal has always been united and
the symbol of unity was the king and we believed more in our
traditions than any other tempting ideologies. Now that we got rid of
our Monarchy to get rid of Gyanendra and his evil son Parase...the
institution is gone forever. The worst of all we Nepalese living in
foreign land lost our right to vote. Well i would like to say in that
way because there was no system for people like me to vote and i have
heard that somebody had already voted in my name and my brothers name
since we are away from Nepal. Now the pride of being a Nepali
has faded away because of recent events. Its very sad that Our
Beautiful Terai is on the verse of division. मेरा आँखा रासये
when I first heard from a friend that they got rid of Monarchy . I
was grown up in a kingdom and now If i go back its a Republic. I am
not pro-Gyanendra but i am pro-monarchy. We lived through history now and we have a story to tell to our kids
and grand-kids. I hope its not the story of sadness. I hope Monarchy
prevails like in Spain. (forgive my english : नेपाली
हू) जये नेपाल
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Posted on 07-06-08 11:06
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परिवर्तन
- होमलाल
बिगतका दुई आन्दोलनले के कस्ता परिवर्तन ल्याए? ०४६ सालको आन्दोलनले पञ्चायतको अन्त्य गरी प्रजातन्त्रको स्थापना, ०६४ को आन्दोलनले राजतन्त्रको अन्त्य गरी गणतन्त्रको स्थापना गरे। अरु दुर्घटना नहुने हो भने यो ठूलो उपलब्धि मान्नु पर्छ। तर भाबी दुर्घटना निम्त्याउन सक्ने पुर्वाधार पनि यी आन्दोलनले गरेका छन्।
सर्व प्रथम, ०४६ को आन्दोलनले प्रहरी सुरक्षा संरचना ध्वस्त भयो। देशका रक्षकलाई दुष्मनलाई झै ढुंगामुढा र कुटपिट गर्न थालेपछि उनीहरुको आत्मबल कमजोर भयो। उनीहरु आफ्नै सुरक्षा गर्न असमर्थ भए भने उनीहरुले जनताको सुरक्षा दिने कुरै भएन। माओवादी जनयुद्धले त उनीहरुको केही बचेको शक्ति नि ध्वस्तै भयो। यसले देशभर कति असर पार्यो, हत्या-हिंसा, चोरी-चकारी कति बढ्यो, त्यसको लेखाजोखा कुनैदिन होला।
दोश्रो, माओवादी आन्दोलन र त्यसपछि माओवादी संमिलित दोश्रो जनआन्दोलने सेनाको शक्ति संरचनालाई क्षतबिक्षत बनायो। ज्ञानेन्द्रको पत्रकार सम्मेलन र त्यसपछिको विदाईको दृष्यले के देखाउछ भने उसले सजिलै गद्दी नत्यागेको भए उ नेपाली चाउचेस्को हुने निश्चित थियो। त्यसबाट अहिलेको सेनाको बल कस्तो छ भन्ने झल्किन्छ। कमजोर सेनाले देशको कसरी सुरक्षा दिन्छ?
कर्मचारीतन्त्रलाई नि आन्दोलनले कमजोर पार्यो। उनीहरुलाई खुला रुपमा पार्टी समर्थनमा उत्रिन प्रेरित गरियो। यसले गर्दा घुसखोरीले थप बैधानिकता पायो। जसले जे गरेपनि हुने भयो राजनैतिक शक्तिको आड लिएर। तैपनि, बिग्रेको कर्मचारीतन्त्रले राष्ट्रिय सुरक्षामा खासै खतरा नपुर्याउला थप नागरीकताको बिक्री बितरण रोकिए।
आन्दोलनले भित्र्याएको सबै भन्दा ठूलो बिकृति हो – जे मागे नि मिल्ने आन्दोलन। नेपालमा आन्दोलन गरेपछि नपाईने कुरा केही छैन। अब त्यसलाई मूर्त रुप दिन छुट्टै राज्यको लागि आन्दोलन हुदा के ले रोक्ने? हिजो भारतले नाकाबन्दी गर्दा एक भएका नेपालीहरु अब मधिसेले त्यही नाका रोक्दा कसलाई दोष दिने? मधिसे र पहाडेको बैमनस्यताले के जन्माउछ? तेश्रो पक्षले यी दुई बीच कसरी फाटो ल्याउन सक्छ भन्ने एक्सपेरिमेन्ट त कपिलबस्तु काण्डले देखाई सक्यो। पार्टी र नेताहरु कुर्सीको लुछातानीमा बसेको बेला, यी राष्ट्रिय सवालहरुलाई कसले बिचार गर्ने?
राजा र राजकुमार चरित्रवान थिएनन् भन्ने त राजावादीहरुले नि स्वीकार गरेकै हुन। तर राष्ट्रिय एकता र राष्ट्रिय अखण्डताको सवालमा उनीहरुको स्थान रहन सक्थ्यो कि भन्ने नि अन्त्य भै सक्यो। बहुमत बालिगको मन जान्ने मौका नि पाएन त्यो संस्थाले। एउटा कलंकित राजा हट्दा नि दुःख मान्नु पर्ने पक्ष के छ भने, यो निर्णय हाम्रो कि बाहिरी हो भन्ने नै बुझ्न सकिएन। किनभने, राजा ले गद्दी छाडे भारतीयको ईशारामा, ७ पार्टी मिले भारतीय ईशारामा, आन्दोलन भयो भारतीय सहयोगमा, नेताहरुको गोप्य वार्ता हुन्छ भारतमा र भारतीय दुताबासमा। अब अरु के के हुने हो? सम्विधान देखि तराई पहाड हिमालको संरचना?
या फेरी हिजो नेपालीले गरेको भनिएको भारतीय बिमानको अपहरण जस्तै अर्को काण्ड रचिने हो, जसले भारतीय सुरक्षालाई खतरा पुगेको आभास होस। राजा रहेनन्, प्रहरी र सेना सुरक्षा दिन समर्थ छैनन्, अनि भारतीय सेनाले फेरी नेपाल पस्ने त हैन? राजनीति जस्तो फोहोरी खेलमा जे नि सम्भब छ। खासगरी जो देशका नेताहरु लेण्डुप दोर्जे हुने होडबाजीमा छन। स्थिति गम्भिर छ, तर याचना गरौ यस्तो दिन हाम्रो प्यारो देश नेपाल र नेपालीले कहिल्यै देख्नु नपरोस। भगवान भरोसा भन्छन् नि!
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