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aman
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Posted on 12-16-07 10:48
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ImI
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Posted on 12-17-07 9:15
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There is no doubt that Kamal Thapa is an eloquent speaker.He hold much more courage than Prachanda.Just compare the way they talk to public.Prachanda sounds like a joker not a leader.But Then again..talks are talks..and politician will remain politician.If Kamal Thapa and Prachanda run a free and fair election from same constituency and let them speak freely without any fear i am sure Kamal thapa can gather more votes than Prachanda. But what he doesn't realize is now country is moving towards republic and disintegration.No one can stop it whether you again keep King or not.The damage is done.It is irreversible.King is gone. There are few good points he raised: 1]Cultural aspects :would a Muslim president go to Pashupati in Shivratri? or Krishna mandir in Janmasthami?How acceptable is that?Acceptable to Muslim rather than hindus. 2]Vision less :There is no doubt that we have seen almost 2 years of full fledge power .Dictatorship of Seven parties and yet they cannot just have one simple plan for valley's garbage planning. 3]Division of Country: To blame past kings for the division of country into himal,pahad and terai is ridiculous.It was made in the basis of geography rather than race and we had no racial tensions then.How about now? 4]Democracy Theory:Ok admit it that what Kamal thapa did to SPAand reporters was undemocratic.But what in SPA govt. they do not have freedom of expression.Is that Loktantra and democratic.It is having double standard in the name of democracy.
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Posted on 12-17-07 9:48
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Maoist Game Plan:One step at atime 1]Shakehands with NC and UML to eliminate King. - Sideline King 2]Shakehands with Royalist to Pressurize NC and get sympathetic and middle right and right votes from NC- sideline NC 3]Shakehands with Small communist party in the name of communism - Sideline UML 4]Small rightist - eliminate them after usage 5]Small leftist - engulf them after use. ONE AND ONLY POWER - MAOIST! I hope NC and UML know this ..
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Posted on 12-17-07 10:54
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Amazing answers!!! This man can speak... i am impressed!! Thank you very much Aman. for posting the link. GP, i like the way you explained about Paras' heart attack and Hrydayendra coming into the scene.. I am not convinced when somebody mentioned that nepali janta are "sachet" and loaded with "bichar ko hatiyar" .. Nepali janta are not Kathmandubashies only . .and who said that kathmandubashies are more "sachet" than himal or terai bashies... they are not .. thats the reason we have new problems in the name of Himal, Terai and Pahad.. We still do not trust our politicians.. and nepali janta's mood can swing easily... you never know.
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indian idol fever
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Posted on 12-17-07 11:02
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100% agreed with GP . Nice views. Yah I used to think that maoist and parties are good but from hearing Kamal Thapa and reading this thread , I am saying Maoist , UML and Congress are also bullshit .
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GP
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Posted on 12-17-07 11:44
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I was tired of Prachanda's repeated answer: we did not know that ...., we will investigate ....., we investigated ...., we allowed .... ,
but Kamal Thapa always asked people to have independent investigation, .....
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mokshya
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Posted on 12-18-07 8:20
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So some of our politicians do know how to speak. Impressive! I thought everyone was like Prachande who gets either too defensive or pretends to be too naive when asked certain questions.
The interview must have opened some eyes. Hey it opened mine Not that I was going to vote against the king, but I simply didn't care before. Now, I'll make sure that I vote and that I vote for the King.
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GP
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Posted on 12-18-07 9:12
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Posted on 12-18-07 11:33
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Monarchy may soon creep back to power. Seven Parties especially Maoists screwed up big time by failing to conduct elections on time. People are going to be fed up soon. This illusion about Loktantra and Ganatantra is not going to keep people happy when streets are not being cleaned and people are being robbed and killed in broad day light.
People are going to question the legitimacy of Girija's Government. How is the Seven Party Government different from King's Government? Both were not elected.
I know Kamal Thapa and et. al are crooks and failed to lead Nepal. But how is Prachanda different? How is Girija different?
In Nepali politics, the best position to be in is in opposition. You need to stay low and remain patient. The party in Government is always drunk with power. Slowly, they start making mistakes. However, Government is too arrogant to accept it. People do not care about it. They make bigger and bigger mistakes. Suddenly, people realize that situations have not improved. Then people start looking for an alternative. Then the opposition comes back to power with a BANG using people's frustration as a tool. Drama continues.
This storyline gets repeated all the time in Nepali politics. I will not be surprised if it is repeated once again. Prachanda and Girija are too arrogant to notice it and still basking on the success of the Jana Andolan II. However, I do not know how long they can count on people's support they got two years ago.
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Posted on 12-18-07 12:06
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What a Irony!
When BP was alive, Mandeles like Kamal Thapa always portrayed BP as traitor and “Indian Dalalâ€. In 2036 when BP and GM Singh went to Hetauda, Kamal Thapa led a group of Mandales and vandalized the stage, where BP supposed to speak and brutally assaulted NC workers. The king and Mandeles never respected BP’s Reconciliation Policy. I guess they were too dumb to understand.
BP died about 3 decade ago and his vision of “Reconciliation†remained incomplete because of arrogance of King and Panchas.
Now, the same opportunist-smooth-talker Kamal Thapa, who called BP “Indial Dalaâ€, is invoking BP’s name for his defense and for his Kings Defense!
All I can say is it is too late.
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aman
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Posted on 12-18-07 12:27
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These days sometimes I think we got rid of 1 king and srrounded by hundreds of so called King. I mean Girija King, Makune King, Prachnada jangalee king Baburam Chhota king, Upendra kala king, Mahantha chhakka king. ............. Was Country better in Panchayat ???? Sala pulis le 46 salmaAscol ma lathile haneko jadoma ahile samma dukhchha.
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Posted on 12-18-07 1:05
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hahahaha.... agree. kamal thapa is one of the powerful orators in nepali politics. in regards of ability to defend his points and be articulate with his explanations, i will personally put him in top 3 in present nepalo political scene-- right after sher bahadur deuba (hahaha... kidding ) i think sometimes it's imperative in nepali politics, in any politics for that matter, to be able to talk the talk than walk the walk. we nepalese are stupid. if that's too offending a word then i will say "innocent". yeah let's face it, we are innocent/naive. and this is true for the most part even when some of the kathmanduites and those who have migrated to different parts of the globe think otherwise. prachanda said: follow me and i will make your dreams come true. we followed him. this is not a unique case though. we've been doing that since time immemorial. right from P.N. Shah to Junga bahadur, Mahendra to Marich man, girija to prachanda, we've been following them all. now i see some of us, in utter discomfort due to the ongoing political crisis, want to follow Kamal Thapa hahaha. they find his thought process more convincing. What's the big news? we need to see someone's back to be able to move forward, no? we cannot move by ourselves. we are crippled by our own lack of judgment. people who believe in talking rather than actions are futile. they are friction to progression but people who say one thing but end up doing the opposites are misleading. they are even more dangerous. i put Kamal thapa in the second coterie. not only they do change colors cunningly but they do it mischievously. someone said thapa is at least not a flip-flopper. LOL! it's got to be the joke of this decade. the only thing he's being loyal for ever since he was born is monarchy. but for it's longevity and for his personal welfare, he had done numerous switching from one government to the other be it NC+RPP coalition, UML+RPP coalition and the likes. just for the record, he was tagged "whore" by the then politicians and press and other media. now that his master and his authority has been beset by all, he's playing the final card. let it be understood. he says: "nepal will not be able to cope up with the republic structure." why? give me one good reason, will you? if 28 million nepalese cannot save nepal from disintegrating, how can a ceremonial monarch with the likes of gyan bahadur or paras do it? you think we are blind? why you tend to forget people's power. we, if unified, are the greatest of all forces. we don't need to bank on CEREMONIAL MONARCHY to save our sovereignty. period. may kamal thapa and his suppporters understand this. sooner the better. amen
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Posted on 12-18-07 2:43
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Loote, you spoke my heart. Good job.
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Posted on 12-18-07 3:02
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Don't forget that Nepalis are not that advanced that they don't care their Jaat-Paat, Thar, Dharma. Badal, Narayan Pun, and Kamal Thapa come from same family of Thaar, and I will not be surprised that they will be united: excuse each other: Narayan Pun, a royalist army man, royalist minister, and congressi leader, used to let his helicopter carry medicine for Badal's people (Maoist) when Mr. Kamal Thapa was working for Royal Govt.
यहाँ कमल थापा, बादल र नारायण पुन को थर् मिलेनि एउटै जात् होइनन, जहाँ सम्म बादल र नारायन पुन को कुरो छ बादल चैने नारायण पुन को सघोत्रै सालो हुन
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Posted on 12-18-07 3:53
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I'm not from Kamal thapa's place. I was still in school when these incidents happened. People believe or not there were few people from Hetauda to work for my dad. Kamal Thapa's younger brother Ganesh Thapa came very late in our house in kathmandu to talk to the people from their district. I asked my dad why did Ganesh Thapa came so late to talk to those people? Those few people whom my dad employed were offered money by Ganesh Thapa to participate in his brother's election to reelect him by forcefully by threating and beating the innocent people. Their job were only to hold khukhuris and dandas to threaten the people who were raising the voice against Kamal Thapa.They said Ganesh was ready to invest as many lakhs as possible to reelect his brother and he was looking for some more Gundas. When I heard this I felt what the heack was this? But I was only 12,13 years old and he is not from my place either. I will never forget this incident. If Ganesh Thapa wants the proof, I will present that dai, who worked for my dad. But I don't want to reveal his name as well as the other people who helped Ganesh Thapa at that time.They actually helped Kamal thapa to reelect and they were told by Ganesh Thapa that he would help them whenever they needed his help. So, people do you want to believe this culprit?This culprit knows how to talk doesn't mean he will be a good leader. There is no gaurantee that a great speaker will become a great leader.These leaders are corrupted. They will say and promise anything to get the power back. Don't buy their words. I don't know how we can get a good leader in nepal. All the highly educated and visionaries people do not want to go back to nepal and don't want to involve in politics. Whereas only the corrupted, lip services, muderers and non visionaries want to be leaders to make cash and spend lavish lifestyles. These corrupted kings, leaders have done nothing except destroying and defaming nepal and nepalese.
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Posted on 12-18-07 3:59
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It is time to make nepal republic and let the people speak by voting who we want our leader to give guidannce.
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Posted on 12-18-07 5:32
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REPUBLIC? And whos your ideal presidential candidate? GP or Prachandaa? Was that supposed to be a joke? There is no option left, but the King has to take control again. Jana Andolan 2 was a complete fake just like 1
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Posted on 12-18-07 5:55
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Thapa nicely grilled and roasted in the interview..poor lad how could he escape......tara pani 'raja' lai bachhauna naak ragadi rakheko chha.He know he doesnt exit without the existence of 'Shah' dynasty.Thukka moro....
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Posted on 12-18-07 5:58
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He and his gangs' rotten mentality shoud be wiped away with a new wave of 'republicans'
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ImI
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Posted on 12-18-07 6:31
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well Talking about disintegration ..No 28 million Nepali cannot stop Nepal from disintegration neither King. Cause we are so divided.The seeds of hatred has been sown we are just seeing it grow.Make it Republic this hatred is gonna just grow.Thanks to Monarch for ignorance and Thanks to Maoist for Dividing. But the biggest thanks goes to NC and UML cause they are so useless that they could not stop this. Are Nepalese public so smart that they will take right decision?Ask yourself ..rather than saying They are smart.Not all are educated..when i mean educated.I am not tallking about Engineering degree.I am talking about unbaised , articulate and rational. And More over ..will our so called democratic leader even going to give rights to people to Decide ?And they say we have LOKTANTRA!!!
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Posted on 12-18-07 10:11
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MN_Nepali and Others, I back the thought that country should go for republic. If we can make country republic at least we will eliminate one worst thing that is monarchy. Regarding, who would be the president then? Army should forge with peoples army of maosit ( but not maoist) and country should be run by Army ( Republican army) but not the way in pakistan. The most lacking thing in nepal is system and discipline and I think only army can bring the country back to system. Or, young leaders from all the parties should unite together and form a combined government and run the country for at least 10 years. If we can go for power sharing then only the government can run efficiently after all politics is all about gaining power.
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