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ImI
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Posted on 07-12-07 12:10
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There were few intellectuals who were very vocal that maoist had contributed so much for Nepalese .They were stressing that Maoist created awareness and all.But what was ultimate contribution of Maoist to welfare of Nepal? They hadn't imagined this :more than dozen seperate armed outfit following the successful path led by maoist. http://kantipuronline.com/kolnews.php?&nid=115538 I always said may be the objective was good but the path adopted was bad.In one of the thread "Terrorism" . One year ago , this debate was going on Whether to call these people terrorist or liberation army.Now , questions to these individual who supported Maoist cause like looote kukur and others .Don't you think JTTM sss ,Cobras and tigers a are freedom fighters?Do you equally have respect for these people newly mushroomed freedom fighters and why shouldn't we fulfill their demands and not divide your Nepal (which you love so much) cause you will still be reiterating that they are freedom fighters. Now , Nepal is in the verge of disintegration due to racial propaganda by maoist backfired . Do you still believe it was great contribution?? If you haven't had enough of Nepal and consequences of maoist freedom fight, There are more to come as i had predicted .wait and see.
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sajhakhohero
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Posted on 07-12-07 12:27
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yes i can see your point dude. no doubt maoist has killed thousands of people, destroyed properties and bring nepal to a verge of self-destruction we must not forget that without the maiost cause Nepal would still be run by tyrant King. Maiost have definitely brought Nepal in the international news and the cause of the maiost was the liberation of the people from the King's power which in my opinion has been successful. Now every dalits and indigenous people of nepal asked for their rights because before the start of peoples war, they were not given opportunities. There were too many discrimination in Nepal especially in the government sector. It was always the same group of people, the same cabinets running the country.... all corrupted and uneducated. Therefore the peoples war is justifiable to bring the tyrant King to its knee and warn the present government that it is not the same as yesterday. Maiost definitely have contributed to creating new system in Nepal.
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deshbhaktanepali
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Posted on 07-12-07 12:29
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Maoist contribution to Nepal: More than 18000 death of Child/Youth/Old/Educated/Illiterate without any casulty among Maoist leadership and their family members. Complete destruction of Trust, Friendship, Morality and brotherhood among one Nepalese to another. Now we are Congress/ communist/Maoist/Rajabadi instead of Nepalese as a whole Destruction of existing infrastruture we had in Nepal and we fall back in constructing new because of 15 years of conflict. When other developing countries like India, China, Vietnam, Indonesia were moving towards economic development we were busy fighting against Maoist and using all the national resources and focus for it. Aren't these contribution of Maoist enought to make them number one revolutionary force in the history of Nepal. I think it surely is.
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sajhakhohero
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Posted on 07-12-07 12:46
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we should not forget that these countries India, China, Vietnam, Indonesia has also had turmoil in the past. Sacrifices has to be made in order for stability and progress of one's nation.
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deshbhaktanepali
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Posted on 07-12-07 12:54
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Mr. sajhakhoher0.......here is a quote from your comments you made in recent past, I guess this should be enough to explain your thinking about Nepal, and fellow Nepalese and to make you quite for some time. sajhakhoherO Email Posted on 07-03-07 9:56 PM Reply | Notify Admin Today i ran into dvs again. they were talking so loud and making so much noise in the public. i was so ashamed of it. i also saw them spitting on the floor. so dirty.
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sajhakhohero
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Posted on 07-12-07 1:13
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deshbhaktanepali who are you to tell me when i should keep quiet. and by posting that statement from the previous thread you think i keep my mouth shut. don't behave like corrupted nepali politician and police k...! i am not afraid to say what i feel is right. In case other sajha users do not know where this statement was derived from, it is extracted from this thread: "DV parera US aune Nepali haru khate nai hun ta?" maybe you are dv winners, a chitta.....i repeat a chitta who couldn't do anything in Nepal. that' why you brought this statement here. for what? what sense does it make?
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no_quiero
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Posted on 07-12-07 5:10
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Maoist are 10,000000000000000 times more tyrant then king. At least in kings reign people did live much more peacefully. At least there wasnt killings. Maoist have used children of age 13-14 and taught them how to use guns, extort. Now there is no way these people can learn to live peacefully. Now they are still threatning and killing people and the victims cannot seek for help because maoist themselves are in govenment. And it is more disgraceful to see that prachanda and co in govenement are trying to defend the atrocious act of YCL rather than condeming their evil deeds.
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Samsara
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Posted on 07-12-07 5:51
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sajhakhoherO , I need to slap you across the face and give you a reality check. Did you even attend high school? If so, you'd atleast have known that the communist system is the fiasco responsible for the downfall/stalled economies of superpowers such as Russia and China. However today, China has this phenomenal growth on paper that is directly attributed to their opening of their economic gates for world trade...They're on a transitional phase to capitalism, damn it!! Any fool can see that. Countries out there following a communist ideology today is now slowly phasing it out, whereas our Nepali brethren are trying to revive this unproven, irrational and a failed system. No wonder we're still where we were 20 years ago. As far as I know, Maoist have only "Dis-Contributed" to the Nepalese system. All that remain of their blood-bath are thousands of widows/orphans/elderly folks taking care of themselves, dilapidated government buildings that were bombed by home made pressure cooker bombs or pipe bombs (atleast they have a lil knowledge in Chemistry), bullet ridden police posts, rampant extortions and kidnappings, recruiting kids into their war of terror, shutting educational establishments to satisfy their stupid ideology and many more BS that can continue forever. Don't you see that these mothafuggers have the country reeling in chaos at the moment. Their atrocities are on the papers everyday, every one in the business community talks about the extortions and threats received and even a simple phone-call back home often mentions these lawless goons. Today they're in the parliament but yet continue extortions, beating anyone (ala local thugs) against their viewpoint and threatening the media houses to make the news wag the dog instead. In short, these nincompoops have crippled the infrastructure and you say that they are good for Nepal?? Get a life, joker. Too much free time on your hands? You need to go get a job or something as it seems you're typing all this shit outta your azz.
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Ramlakhan
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Posted on 07-12-07 7:25
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'SAMSARA' WE SHOULD SLAP YOU TWICE. YOU DID RELAISE THAT ALL THE COUNTRIES LIKE CHINA, INDIA, VIETNAM WENT THROUGH A SIMILAR (INFACT FAR EXTREME ) REVOLUTION s... BUT YOU DIDNT RELAISE THAT ONLY BECAUSE OF THAT ' REVOLUTION NOW THEY ARE BREATHING THE FRESH AIR OF 'PHENOMENAL GROWTH'. UNFORTUNATELY,ONLY NOW HAVE NEPALESE REALISED TO THINK 'BIG' -to think why was revolution required in our own country as well. When we successfully pass through this tough phase of 'transition'(so did the above countries), we can also then think a step forward to be Indepent and prosperous. 'Der se Aya lekin Dorsoot Aya' .THE CHANGE IN OUR COUNTRY .Now lets work for the NEW NEPAL
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Samsara
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Posted on 07-12-07 8:31
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hahahah RamLakhan dhoti bro (which are you Anil kapoor or jackie Shroff??), come hither and we'll see who slaps who. I'll add a few kicks to you face too as interest payment. hahaha wtf?? You're saying that previously communist countries have phenomenal growth because they were communists (you've added India to the list too, dog-breath)?? wtf? On the conrtary, Russia was a superpower (though its masses were starving) when communism was around, now its a damn joke! As you suggested, DO YOU THINK I'D BE INTERESTED IN WAITING 90-100 YEARS TO SEE A DIFFERENCE IN THE SYSTEM?? Fugger, you don't even know anything about economic systems and you're preaching about communism now. God only wished you'd have taken a few econ classes as you'd have understood what the greatest economist of all, Keynes said during the great depression when all around him were patiently waiting for the invisble hand to correct the catastrophe. His exact words were "In the long run, we're all dead." hahahah Similarly as someone suggested earlier, you (Ram or Lakhan or whateva) need to wait for your rebirth (if one exists ) to see the development take place after the Maosits have accumulated a few billion in their Swiss-miss accounts and have left the economy in shambles. You goddamn nincompoop, have to say this after reading your post that it’s the most irrational bull-crap I've ever read and it can't even compare to a 10 year old's mentality.
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deshbhaktanepali
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Posted on 07-12-07 9:33
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Mr. SAHAKHOHERO....you are completely exposed dude...i don't think I will have to answer your questions futher.
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Rahuldai
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Posted on 07-12-07 9:58
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माओबादिको योगदान् बिकासमा हो वा बिनाशमा, निकै नै छ , कुनै शंका छैन। पार्टिको चस्मा फुकालेर आम जनताको चक्षुले हर्ने भए बिनाशको ताण्डब नाच बाहेक केहि देख्नु हुने छैन। अझ सगौरब भाषण गर्न मात्र बाकी छ, पोलपोटले कम्बोडियामा २० लाख निर्दोष मारेका थिए, हमीले मात्र २० हजार् पनि पुर्याउन सकेनौ भनेर। कामेरेड माओ ले सांस्क्रितिक क्रान्ति पछि ७० लाख जनताको चिहान खनेका हुन् र आजको एकाइसौं शताब्दिमा पनि अझै जिउदा छन्, माओका नवसंसकरणहरु। काम्रेड बाबुराम् भट्टराइकै भनाइ मा पनि राजा बीरेन्द्रसङ कार्यगत एकता भएको अन्दोलन जनताको उन्मुक्तिको लागि हुन सक्ला र? राजतन्त्र फाल्ने अझ संसदबाटै गणतन्त्र फलाक्नु पर्ने चर्को माग गर्नेहरु राजासङ सहकार्य गर्छन त। प्रजातन्त्र र स्वतन्त्रता माओबादिको एजेण्डा कहिलेइ थिएन र हुन सक्दैन। बन्दूकको भर् मा एकदलिय तानशाहि ब्यबस्था नै अन्तिम् लक्ष हुन् तिनका। मित्र महोदय, कहाँ कुन देश मा नगरिकहरुले मौलिक हक भोग चलन् गर्न पाएका छन्, माओका सन्तानहरुले राज चलाएको देशमा? चिनमा? अहं, एक शब्द सरकार र कम्युनिष्ट पार्टिको खिलाफ बोल्नु पाउन हुन्न। क्युबामा? लिबियामा? आर्थिक बिकासको उच्चतम बिन्दूमा भनिएको चिनको कम्युनिष्ट सरकारको सक्कलि रुप कस्ले देखेको छ। उत्तर पस्चिम चिनमा अझै भोकमरिले हजारौं मान्छे मरि रहेकाछन्। ७५ करोड मान्छेहरुले खानेपानी र सरसफाई पाएकाछैनन्। बेइजिङ्, साँघाइ, ग्वाँचाउ, आदिको बिकास ले युरोप र अंेरिका लाई बिर्साउने भए नि करोडौं जनताले यावत सुबिधा पाएकाछैनन्, हातमुख जोड्न युग्द गरि राखेकाछन। उत्तर् पश्चिम चिनला ७० प्रतिशत जनता गरिबीका रेखा मुनि कष्टकर् जीवन भोगिराखेका छन्। यस्तो हुन्छ, काम्रेड माओका सन्तानहरुको देखाउने र चपाउने दाँत। त्यति मात्र होइन, आर्थिक प्रगतिको सूचक भयंकर देखाइेको छ, स्वतन्त्ररुमा पुष्टि गर्ने कुनै संयन्त्र छैन। जे दियो सरकारले त्यहि मानु सिवाए। वातबरण बिनाश कत्ति को भएको छ, मजदूर् शोषण कति को भाको छ, बिचरा हाम्रो देशको मजदूर् हरु तिनकै लालिपोपमा मजदूरको क्रान्ति खोजिरहेकाछन्। के थाहा, संसार भर् कै सबै भन्दा जोखिम देश उनकै माइबापको भनेर। भारतको उदाहरण लेउं। सन १९७० भन्दा पहिला पश्चिम बंगाल भारतकै दोस्रो ठुलो आर्थिक केन्द्र थियो। सिनेमा उद्योग त्यहि थिए, बन्द ब्यापरको केन्द्र नै थिए। तर माओका नव संस्करणहरुले १९७० देखि हाल् सम्म अनवरत एक् छत्र राज गरि राखेका छन् र अहिले बंगालको स्थान पुछारको छैठौं मा छ। सिनेमा उद्योग मुम्बै सरे, कलकारखाना अन्तै सरे। पहिला जति गरीब थिए आज तिनको संख्या १० गुणाले बढे। के थिएन, त्यहाँ? राजनैतिक स्थिरता? ज्योति बसुले मात्र ३३ बर्ष एक्लैले चलाए। अझै पनि कोहो मन्त्री त ३० बर्ष देखि एकै मन्त्रालय सम्हाल्दै आएकाछन्। समुन्द्र र बन्दरगाह्, अंग्रेजले बनाइ दिएको आधारभुत संरचनाहरु सबै थिए। तै पनि सबै पलायन भए। किन कि गरीबको नाममा राजनितिगर्ने ढोंगिहरुले जनतालाई गरीब बाट् झन गरीब मात्र बनाउने छन्, नत्र जनता जागे भने, संब्रिद्ध भए भने, तिनलाई भोट हाल्ने को बाकि हुन्छ र? अझै पनि हाम्रा देशका गरीब जनताहरु, यिनै राजनैतिक नौटंकीबाजहरुले देखाएको नक्कली सपनामा रमाइ रहेकाछन्। बुझ्नेलाई श्रीखण्ड, न बुझ्नेलाई खुर्पाको बींड। तारेमाम, अस्तु!>
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Ramlakhan
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Posted on 07-12-07 10:25
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Yes JOKER 'samsara'- I do not know where kapoor or jackie chan...looks like you know their names better. I have never talked about communism or congress....they are just ideology . I talked about 'revolution' not communist or congress. Whether be it communism or Congress, whether democrat or republic, whether conservative or labour............as long as they bring 'good change' in the country they are appreciated by the people. Dont be 'Bheda' just bcos the party is called democratic doesnt mean they have the best democratic policy. People looks for policy and quality of the leaders not the name.
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Samsara
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Posted on 07-12-07 10:48
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hahahah This Ramlakhan moustacheo dude, the village idiot is at it again....hahahah NINCOMPOOP SUPPORTS THE REVOLUTION BUT NOT THE IDEOLOGY. WTF??? GET SOME GRAY MATTER STUFFED UP THERE, BUNION CHEEKS...The maobadi's revolution was to bring communism to the forefront, idiot (A system dead bent on ruining the nation completely). Like I said earlier, attend high-school and then go to college and see why this system doesn't work or you could even read my earlier posts on threads on Sajha. You could end up getting an intensive course for free. hahaha and we're talking about economic systems, dimwit: Capitalism, Communism, Feudalism, Socialism, etc. Where da hell did you get Democrat, Republic or Congress from??? Get a decent education, ya dumb fag and only then come up with stronger points to argue with the dad of your elders here!! hhahahaha
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Ramlakhan
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Posted on 07-12-07 10:53
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Looks like Mr samsara gots nothing else to write...:) He keeps talking about his high shools....only 'BHEDA's like you need to go to high school to understand the simple logic.
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Samsara
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Posted on 07-12-07 10:58
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Hey mustacheo, first when you posted the same post thrice I thought it was a simple error...Then you did the same thing (again, I gave you the benefit of the doubt). But now, seeing it for the third time, man, do you even know how to use a computer? Is it your first time posting on Sajha?? If so, get some elementary level computer skillz at least! You're ruining it for all who come to this thread...SOMEONE CASTRATE THIS FOOL BEFORE HE MAKE THIS WHOLE THREAD REEK OF bheda ko geda!! hahahahahah
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deshbhaktanepali
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Posted on 07-12-07 10:58
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Mr. Ramlakhan ( I believe you are Mr.)...why are you writing everything 3 times?????
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Posted on 07-12-07 11:05
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Guys lets not fight with eachother. This is a good discussiopn that's totally worth debating. This is a good thing going on here right now. Lets respect eachother for the concern given to our country if not for eachother's views.
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Ramlakhan
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Posted on 07-12-07 11:06
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Yeah I think sajha likes my postings so much ....that they have set it this way. I cant help it bro!!
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Ramlakhan
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Posted on 07-12-07 11:10
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You can request to change the setting to one - for your own sake.
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