Dear Madhesi Daajubhai, Didibahiniharu

Thanks a lot for being united to raise the voice of right. After the negotiation with the government, you have already achieved your goal, now is the time to institutionalize what you have achieved. If your agitation is for right, you have already achieved it-if it is to prevent the successful conduction of CA election, there is a lot more for you to do before you are consigned to a lifetime of servitude and poverty. The ball is now in your court to choose – either be a part of common nepali vision of peace and prosperous Nepal by taking part in the historic CA election, or be ready to accept the blame of preventing the historic change which is all set to institutionalize the achievement of our great martyrs.

I was, among the group of my Nepali friends, the strongest advocate of the madhesi agitation. But since a couple of days, I have been amazed with the way the madhesi leaders are misusing the sentiments of madhesi people for the interest of the reactionary and feudal elements. Even a layman can now understand that these leaders want to save monarchy. I can very proudly say that Nepali constitution ( in the past, and in the interim one) does not have a politics of hate towards any religion, caste, region, or community. We do not have any incident of violence in the past where in any community was targeted. We never had to fear of any violence because of our origin, religion , or region. Think of india, where 3000 sikhs were killed in a violence that erupted after Indira Gandhi was killed; 2000 people were killed in Gujarat by violence initiated by chauvinistic hindus, allegedly supported by the then gujarati government. As an example about the politics of hate towards people of other community in India, we have a fresh memory of how Raj Thakery targeted north-indians in Mumbai. Dear Madhesis, have you ever been targeted in any kind of such inhumane brawl like this. I know your answer- its no…and you are believing India to acquire your right. Shame on you, you do not know how people from Bihar are treated in other states of India.

It hurts to me when you target pahadis with your agitation, it hurts to all who has heart. We need to learn to assimilate, not to divide. The first thing to bring about the change is the constitution which doesnot have any bias on any basis. The second, but most important thing is the change in the attitude. Instead of trying to come up with the changed attitude, you are showing the attitude which will keep the madhesis and pahadis apart forever.

 

WELL SAID ...................... what i dont understant about the current madhesi movement is all about???,,,,,,,,,,I dont see anyway how madheshi people have been treated differently that any other people in Nepal .well they have same rights as anyother nepalese citizen and they  are in different goverenment departments and private sectors.......................

well so what is this all for then?????????????????? And the demand for asking separate state and changing the national language is just plain wrong............and those leaders who are  trying to divide country on the basis of religion, commuity and ethinicity should be thrown out of the country...

Do u really think madhesis have been treated equally!!!

well man,...... i was born in place where there are lot of madhesis..and i have  madhesi friends too,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, never felt that

dhimaar jee!

     if you have walked the streets around dharan and pokhara for 30 days, you would have seen at least 300 or more such incidance humiliating madheshi for almost all aspects. evenif they know one is from a district from terai, never hesitated to call them bihari (the word itself a GAALI).

       friends! don't just be hippocrat...........................

and still some dumb madishes think that upendra will solve their problem, LOL

Wow are some of you guys really serious when you give a statement like "I dont see anyway how madheshi people have been treated differently that any other people in Nepal". I wouldn't blame all of us for the current problems in Nepal because all the people in the Terai region stayed in harmony. It was people from cities like KTM, Pokhara, Dharan who are so convinced of their own superiority that they don't think people from other regions have feelings. They have derogatory terms for people from every region other region from Nepal. When they are done with the others they call each other names. I guess we are paying our dues for years of suppression. If there is one thing I believe in, its "KARMA". What goes around , comes around.  We could do all the LOL's we want. but  their (the weak and suppressed) turn will come to do the LOL...
Its sad to see people standing in line for hours for a liter of Kerosene. Some of them are so young and might have nothing to do with the current situation.
I guess its a lesson for all of us that "We need to treat all human beings with respect no matter what caste, color, ethnicity, rich or poor". If not this will keep happening for years....
May God help the poor, weak and innocent and give them courage to survive through this tough time in our country.

Jobs1, well said!
I do not blame agitating people from Madhesh for their desire to earn respect and equality for a change. I also do not blame the reaction towards these actions that we commonly see from general public. It is definitely easy for us to judge based on the superficial violence and all the chaos that is going on around in Nepal and come to a conclusion that what is happening is a wrongdoing or 'bad'. After all, even our ability to use the internet and spend a few minutes or hours in Sajha attests to the fact that we are relatively privileged. In that sense we are all coming from some level of bias. But just for a second if we force ourselves to fit in the shoes of those who have been denied rights for quite a long time, who work all day in the farms of other people yet fail to put a sano roti ko tukra in the plate for their little children, whose voices and requests to the govt go astray, comman, that's gotta be a freakin' frustrating experience. Even thinking about it boils my blood. If I am actually experiencing this in a day to day basis and if someone offers me a hope, man, you can bet on it - I will worship that person to death! But again, politics is a dirty game, which has become quite a cliche in the context of Nepal. So, people craving for hope can be more easily manipulated. But again, the next chapter of revolution and change can arise from there, should the people feel the need, just like the way they had acknowledge the need for change in the start.
So, what the hell did I just bark about?
Plain and simple put it your way - things are more complex in the inside than they appear from the outside.


But... Ktm_bis's point is also well taken. We certainly don't want to see Nepal face the ethnic war, which will be more devastating. The hatred and pain that has developed over the course of time has finally funneled through Terai 'revolution' and has the potential of becoming ever more violent, should the government fail to come to a compromise. All we (esp those in the US) can do  is be part of an audience of this crazy film of politics and hope the heroes improvise the story to bring a positive ending. Because, I certainly don't want to spend any more money on tissue paper!

DO you know how black people are treated in USA and now who is the most probable President of the US?? Shut the f*UC*K up and stop debating how people have been treated.

Good relaxion....I believe u. I told u I was/am the strong advocate of madhesi rights. And you might have felt that there had been attempts to direct the Madhesi sentiments for the benefit of those who disenfranchised the madhesis of their rights from centuries. I saw the elements in the leadership of madhesis who used people solely for  their personal interest, being driven by feudal forces. I know I am from a privileged community, and so I might be biased. But being in a circle of madhesi friends, and having seen many of my madhesi friends facing biases on the basis of origin; I strongly advocated for a rational agitation. I hope things have come to a good ending.The extremists will still try to use the sentiments of underprivileged people in days to come to create a situation of havoc. People like us should be united- we are all the same- be it pahadis or madhesis- we are all nepali.Lets move with common goal, if we stand united, we have myriads of resources to use, diversity should not be blamed, its our property. Jai madhes! Jai pahads! Jai Nepal!!!

Lets just say we are one step closer to becoming Indian Citizen. Congrats to all Nepalese

मैले नबुझेको कुरो,

ब्राम्हण लाई ब्राम्हण वा बाहुन भन्नु मा गाली हुन्छ र?
नेवार लाई नेवार भन्नुमा बेइज्जत हुन्छ र ?
पहाडी लाई पहाडी भन्नु मा कहाँं रिस उठ्छ र ?

मधेस मा बस्नेलाई मधेसी भन्दैमा हेपेको, गाली गरेको कसरी हुन्छ?

जहाँ सम्म मधिसे आन्दोलन को कुरा छ, कुनै जाती वा समुदायको हितको लागि गरिएको आन्दोलन हुँदै होइन। संबिधान सभाको चुनाव हुन नदिने अन्तिम अस्त्र फ्यांकेका हुन। नत्र, कुरा मिलिसक्दा पनि चुनाव सार्ने प्रस्ताव राख्ने थिएन, उपेन्द्र यादब भन्ने मधिसे ले। तराइका निमुखा नेपाली ले त बन्द तोड्फोड को मार झेल्नु पर्‍यो पर्‍यो, काठमाडौ लगायत देशका अन्य भागका जनताले दु:ख झेल्नु झेल्नु पर्‍यो। जस्तो सुकौ संझौता गरे पनि संबिधान सभाको चुनाव पछी बनाइने संबिधान मा उल्लेख हुनु पर्‍यो । तिनको बौ बाजेको बल त्याहा सम्म पुग्ने छैन।

४६ साल को आन्दोलन पछी भएका ३ वटा संसदको चुनाव मा कहाँ थिए, ती मधिसेका मसिहाहरु ?
त्यती बेला सम्म मधिसेको अधिकार चुपचाप् सहेका थिए त? त्यतिबेला नि मधिसेको मसिहा बताउने गज्जु बाबुको सदभावना पार्टी चुनाव लडेका थिए। देश भर मधिसे चुनाव लडाएका थिए। १० सिट भन्दा बढी किन जित्न सकेनन त?
मुस्लिम बाहुल्य भएको तराइ बाट माधव नेपाल चुनाव जिताउने पहाडे त पक्कै थिएनन। खड्ग ओली, चक्र बास्तोला, कृष्ण प्रसाद सिटौला लाई पनि तिनै मधिसेले जिताएका हुन। तिनको बिरुद्ध पनि मधिसे लडेका थिए, भुइमै   लडे।

उता दुष्ट छिमेकी का भाजपा को गोरखपुरमा भएको कार्यक्रममा राजा बचाउने उदघोष गर्ने उपेन्द्र यादबले चुनाव सार्ने प्रस्ताव राख्नु, भाजपाले संबिधानिक राजातन्त्रको वकालत गर्नु संयोग मात्र मान्न मिल्दैन। रेणु यादव, सर्बेन्द्र नाथ शुक्ला को चर्को आवाजमा नारयणहितिको बोली निस्कनु संयोग पक्कै होइन।

त्यसैले भोली का दिनमा तिनै मधिसे अझै किनारा लाग्ने निस्चित छ। मर्स्या, मधिसे अनी बिहारी शब्दको प्रयोग जती सुकै कडा कानून बनाए पनि जन मानसमा घ्रिणायुक्त भावमा गढिने छ। अस्तु!
 
 

भारतले मिले सिक्किमको नभए पनि भुटानको सिमा त तोक्यो आज नेपालमा। माओबादीको भागबण्डे, गिरिजाको थामथुमे, अनि अरु पाटीहरुको सामसुमे नीतिले देशमा ठुलो संकट निम्त्याएको छ। आज त दिक्कै लाग्यो मलाई। समस्या हल हुनु त कता हो कता झन उल्झेको छ अब। अदुरदर्शीताको बलियो उदाहरण देखियो आज।

सायद नया नेपाल भनेको एही नै पो रहेछ की के हो. नया नेपाल नया नेपाल भंथे
ई घुसिया नेताहरुको भाषामा नया नेपाल भनेको त तराई बिनाको नेपाल रहेछ बल्ल थाहा भयो

राहुलदाई,

अरु कुरामा बहस गर्न त न जाँगर नै छ, न ट्याम नै। तर एउटा कुरा चईं भन्न मन लायो।

"ब्राम्हण लाई ब्राम्हण वा बाहुन भन्नु मा गाली हुन्छ र?
नेवार लाई नेवार भन्नुमा बेइज्जत हुन्छ र ?
पहाडी लाई पहाडी भन्नु मा कहाँं रिस उठ्छ र ?

मधेस मा बस्नेलाई मधेसी भन्दैमा हेपेको, गाली गरेको कसरी हुन्छ?"

कुरो हो, "मधेसी" या "मधिसे" को। मधेसकालाई "मधेसी" भन्नु एकदम सहि हो, र त्यसमा कसैको गुनासो पनि छैन।

तर जहाँ सम्म "मधिसे" शब्दको कुरा छ, नेपाली भाषामा अकसर गरेर अन्त्यमा "े" (ए) उच्चारण हुने सम्बोधनहरु हेपिएर नै भनिएका हुन्छन्। जस्तो, काले (कालो सहि हो), अमरिकाने (अमरिकन सहि हो), अर्थात, पुन्टे, च्यान्टे, गान्टे, आदि।

कसैको नामैले बोलाउँदा पनि, रामको साटो रामे, कृष्णको साटो कृष्णे, राहुलको साटो राहुले, तब मात्र प्रयोग गरिन्छ, जब सम्बन्धित व्यक्ति प्रति घनिष्टता बढेको हुन्छ, र उसलाई "तँ" ले सम्बोधन गर्ने आँट आउँछ। हुन त कुनै दुई मित्र बिच "तँ" भनिंदा होच्याईएको जस्तो नसुनिएला, तर भाषाले लगाईने "तँ" को सहि अर्थ होच्याउनु नै हो।

अत: "मधेसि" सहि हो, "मधिसे" गलत।

मधेसि आन्दोलनको भित्री राजनिति छुट्टै, तर उनीहरु प्रति सामन्यतया पहाडीहरुको दृष्टिकोण, सोंचाई, तथा व्यवहारमा पूर्ण सकारात्मक परिवर्तन चाहिं हुनै पर्छ भन्ने मेरो विश्वास छ। त्यसपछि मात्र राजनैतिक भागबण्डाको कुरामा बहस गर्न मिल्छ। हैन भने, जति हामी क्रुर हुन्छौं, उति नै मधेसिहरु आक्रोशित र उत्तेजित हुनु स्वभाविक हो जस्तो लाग्छ मलाई।

भने जस्तो आजको भोलि त पक्का पनि हुँदैन, तर पढे-लेखेका, जाने-बुझेका हरुले नबुझेका, नजानेकाहरुलाई मार्ग दर्शण दिनको निमित्त पनि हामीले उक्त सकारात्मक परिवर्तनहरु समेट्न आफैंबाट शुरु गर्दा उचित हुन्छ जस्तो लाग्छ।

अत्यन्तै सजिलो शुरुवात हुनेछ: "मधिसे" नभनि आदर पुर्वक "मधेसी" भन्न थालौं।

 

राहुलज्यूको एउटा सानो टिप्पणीमा मेरो पनि टिप्पणी छ है ।

 

>जहाँ सम्म मधिसे आन्दोलन को कुरा छ, कुनै जाती वा

>समुदायको हितको लागि गरिएको आन्दोलन हुँदै होइन।

>संबिधान सभाको चुनाव हुन नदिने अन्तिम अस्त्र फ्यांकेका हुन। 

 

यो हुँदै होईन र हुन् हुन् को साटो हुनसक्छ प्रयोग गर्नु भएको भए academically accurate and honest statement हुन्थ्यो । यो कुरा पुन्टेदाकै कोठामा भएको गफगाफमा पनि भएकै हो ।

 

जे भए पनि, यी मधेसी (मदिसे नभन्नु के) नेताहरुले चुनावमा भाग लिए भने तपाईको ठोकुवा गलत साबित भएन ? र हुनेवाला पनि त्यही हो जस्तो लाग्छ मलाई । अब हेर्दै जाम ।

 

 

 

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दीपज्यो,

 

तपाईको टिप्पणी यो आठ-बुँदे सम्झौटो को बुँदाहरु माथि हो भने, तपाई र मैले ती बुँदाहरुलाई अकाश जमीन को फरकले बुझेका रहेछम् ।

 

मेरो बुझाईमा यो सम्झौताको सार भनेको मधेसी नेताहरुले अलग मधेसको एजेण्डा (माँगपत्रको कुरा मात्र गर्‍या होईन नि) लाई कम्तीमा हाललाई त्याग गर्ने (अर्थात बढीमा, सम्विधान सभाले नयाँ सम्विधान बनाउने बेलामा देखाजाएगा भन्ने सम्मको) र राज्यले चाही मधेसी समुदायको अधिकतम समावेश स्वीकार गर्ने भन्ने हो ।

 

“मधेस”, “प्रदेश”, “स्वायत्तता” आदि शब्दको कुनै ठोस स्वरुप र अर्थ स्वीकार नगरिएको र त्यसको जिम्मा सम्विधान सभालाई दिईएको कुरा सम्झौताको मुटु हो ।

 

सम्झौताको २ नं बुँदाको अन्तिम वाक्य,

 

“नेपालको सार्वभौमिकता, एकता र अखण्डतालाई अक्षुण्ण राख्दै स्वायत्त प्रदेशहरुको संरचना केन्द्र र प्रदेशका सूचिहरुको पूर्ण विवरण र अधिकारको बाँडफाँड सम्विधान सभाबाट निर्धारण गरिनेछ”

 

ले सम्पूर्ण कुराको जिम्मा सम्विधान सभालाई लगाईदिएको छ । त्यसैले नेपाल भुटान हुने हो कि, सिक्किम हुने हो कि, नेपाल हुने हो कि के हुने हो त्यो कुरा सम्विधानसभाको सभामा तय हुनेछ, आजको सम्झौताले त्यस बारे 0.000001% पनि निर्णय गरेको छैन ।

 

नेपालको प्रशासनिक पुनर्संरचना गर्ने कुरा मात्र तय भएको हो, कस्तो गर्ने भन्ने तय भएको होईन । अहिलेकै अञ्चललाई प्रदेश नाम दिएर एउटालाई मधेस प्रदेश भन्न सकिने सम्मको खुला सम्भावना भएको सम्झौता हो यो ।

 

अब सम्झौताको कुराले होईन अर्कै कुराले नेपाल भुटान हुने भो भन्नु भएको हो भने त्यो छुट्टै बहस हो ।

Nepe