the cabinet meeting today decided to nationalise the king'S palaces across the country

have your say

"If they really want to do something about this they should confiscate all the CORRUPT POLITICIAN'S LAND, PROPERTY, FOREIGN BANK ACCOUNTS that are not in par with their regular salary. Why only the KING(trust me not a big fan of him) ? Why not Girija's daughter caught in chandan taskari. Prachandey & Baburamey for robbing poor people's banks(their entire savings). etc etc"

BC. I think that day will come too. It's the Kings turn now and if Girija doesn't deliver or screws up like Gyanendra, he might meet the same fate.

Better Sooner than latr while the fire is still goin'
Cause once it dies down.. will be very hard to get those flames going.
I mean Politicians have that habbit of saying,"Aba lai pugyo pheri pachi garaula when it comes to their turn." Don't want this to be swept under the carpet after they are done with Gyaney. Cause those fugging politicians are just as bad as him.

I think the country will turn against Girija if the CA polls are not held, squabbles amongst ethnic groups continue and if corruption rises (and he or his family/party is found to be complicit)

This is his fifteen minutes of fame - whether he uses it to etch his name in history or become another failure is up to him.

I'll even go further - I think Prachanda's rear end is also on the line. It might be later than Gyanedra's and Girija's but it will come.

This is not right …………….
Very unfair…………….
So if any netas dies ( hope they die soon ) their properties will be nationalized as well.
So who is gonna go live in the palaces……..?
I won’t be surprised if netas will say it is gonna be next priminister quarter
Or right when it gets nationalized maoist will take over the palace…………….
Nepal is turning in to another one of those African countries……………..
Democracy in Nepal is going out of hand people don’t respect other people any more.
It’s even scary to walk outside…………………
I am really sad that I have to say I am nepali any more…………….
I don’t feel proud any more that I am nepali like I use to feel long time ago….............

I certainly hope so. JUSTICE should be served if you want to gain the trust of the people. Otherwise it will be same old same old. And people WILL lose faith. Then we will be back to where we started again and again and again. Poor Nepal Ama will be sooo batted and bruised it will be very very hard to get her up again.

I don't understand much politics but can any one just reason me

"HOW CA elections or ANY THING" can the bring the country to a stable nation..........

I mean , do you guys see any hopes of NEPAL not worsening than what it is now ??

Thanks.......in advance.

Status quo should have been maintained if the constituent assembly (Sambhidhan Sabha- i don know how many of us really understand it) was to settle the issue of monarchy and the places the royals own or occupy. If the government is there to serve the people the focus should have been law and order...
बढीनी नाङै सिङदरबारमा उभीदा हेरी राख्नेहरुले केही commoners लाई सजिलो हुने काम गर्नेकी?

 

places..palaces whatever...

Good news, at least Nepali people see something done by SPA. Kina Gyane chor lai paisa dine Nepali people le, aba yo gyane lai pahama halo jotaun pathaunu parcha. Paras gunda lai rukhama jhundaunu parcha, Ani sajha ka mandle haru thukk mula gyane ko kattu ho bhai thukkna paincha.

Ya this the CA polls why people think its gonna happen whenn there is Maoist there to make sure that it dont happen.....................


Maoist programmes terrorising people: Sitaula

Home Minister Krishna Prasad Sitaula has said the recently announced protest programmes of the Maoists have terrorised the people instead of creating atmosphere for constituent assembly polls.



Home Minister Situala speaking during the programme. nepalnews.com/ANA
Speaking at the Reporters' Club on Thursday, Sitaula urged the Maoist leadership to withdraw all the protest programmes immediately and join in the campaigns for holding election in a free and fair manner. He said parties should not create terror in people.

Stating that such programmes would restrict people from casting their votes in the polls, Sitaula asked the Maoists to be serious about the elections.

The Maoist programmes announced on Saturday demanding establishment of republic before the election have drawn criticism from various quarters that such programmes would end up disrupting the polls.

He further said the government was determined to improve security for the polls at any cost.

In another context, Sitaula said process for nationalisation of the property owned by late King Birendra and Queen Aishworya and present King Gyanendra has begun. He said the ministerial committee had started collecting the details of the properties, which would be finalised soon.

On the occasion, the Reporters Club handed over Rs 100,001 aid to the flood victims. nepalnews.com ia Aug 23 07

Well. The first thing this governemt did immediately after coming to power was to delcare KHUM BAHADUR KHADKA, GOVINDA RAJ JOSHI as a clean person.

What can we expect from this goverment who are in power by chance not choice. The dont have mandate of people.

First of All, All these places should and never was King's personal property.How can it be personal property?It is National property as it was build by the Govt. of Nepal.

Does the road , bridge belong to a person?

whoever is the king , gets to live in those house just like PM in baluwatar.

So I think this might just be a sop to mollify the republicans and anti-King forces. I think the government did not go far enough. Like with so many things in politics, in trying to please everyone and strike a compromise, the government might have pleased no one.

Exactly this is what it is.

But the question is: Can the present governmnet go far enough? What else can it do? Whether one admits it or not, doing away with the institution of monarchy is not as easy as the SPA+Maoist leadership make it to be because of these factors:

1. Domestic: It is not quite clear what percentage of our population wants the King to go. There's a lot of ambiguity here. What I feel is, there's a lot of anger towards the King, but there's a lot of sympathy/goodwill for the institution. Maybe the majority in Rolpa, Rukum, Salyan, Pyuthan wants the King to go, but Nepal is not REPRESENTED by these 4--OK 20--districts and its population, or the angry mobs that stage protests and Nepal bandh everyday.

Let's not judge the mood of all Nepali people based on young Ratnapark-Tundikhel protesters and their "anti-monarchy" slogans.

[If we are to run a comparative political analysis, Nepal's case now is quite similar to Japan in 1945. The majority wanted Hirohito to abdicate, but was not against the idea of monarchy. ]

2. International factor: Does India really want monarchy abolished? I don't think so. No matter what it says, the GOI knows that having a King is in its best interests. The main opposition party BJP still supports the King and anything the Indian govt. does or tries to do to support the republcian forces will be opposed by the BJP and its "militant-Hindu- Nationalists' affiliates.

If the SPA really wanted the King to go, why didn't they do it when the House was restored? Why couldn't they do it that day? They did not because they knew they could not because of the domestic and international factors. Also for the parties, monrachy is their last resort if --IF- the maoists decide to break away from the alliance and go back to their old ways.

Just my views. Feel free to disagree.

Also, read this line carefully:

"The King, however, will be allowed to stay in Narayanhiti Palace until the Constituent Assembly elections that is to decide the fate of monarchy, according to Prithvi Subba Gurung, Minister for Culture, Tourism and Civil Aviation."


Now this sounds outrageous and dangerous. Why? Because the leaders are already predicting the election's outcome. If they already know the outcome, why go for it? Why not declare Nepal a republic right away and kick the King out? Like Plato said, "The tyranny of one has ended, the tranny of a hundred/collective has begun." (or somethng like this while commenting on Athenian democracy.) In waht could be termed as "Sautako rishle logne marne" thinking, we are giving the SPA+ Maoist leadership enermous power to decide on our behalf. Is this democracy? I don't know.

All the decisions are directed...and we should know who directs that....the Indians don’t want anything that symbolizes Nepal....who cares wtf they decide....
my only concern is to hold my nepali passport forever....
seeya allzz

Great news - albeit one that came a day late and a dollar short.

Thanks for the union of SPA + Maoists. Together it represents a mix of ideologies and dispositions - desirable or otherwise - that is still more representative of Nepal than it was under Gyane's rule.

No matter how polluted the Bagmati river, it is still a sacred river. No matter how corrupt/violent the union, it is still our best hope in the transition. We're stuck with them.

Why not simply kick monarchy out with a two thirds majority of the interim Parliament - as there is reason to believe that palace is covertly behind many of the mayhems in the Terai? Historically, people never wanted this Shah monarchy in the first place- it was thrust on them through conquest? It didn't come through a democratic entrance, why should the exit have to be made democratic? So I don't understand all the hoopla about holding a CA for deciding monarchy's fate. The people and the union of SPA + Maoists have emerged victorious, so they should simply throw monarchy out through the two-thirds majority. They should act like the conquerors - who with Janandolan 2 - have beaten the old system. Garbage in , garbage out -could be an apt epitaph for monarchy.

The CA should simply be for selecting candidates for writing a new contitution, a new republic set-up as per the people's aspirations reflected in their votes. No point wasting time and resources and people's time on deciding what to do with the monarchy garbage. If you really leave the garbage lying on the streets, it surely stinks the place up. This is really the solid waste management problem - you don't need to hold a CA to deal with this problem.

You talk a lot of sense Samsara. Well said.

One only has to look at how things used to be before the advent of democarcy and how things are now, 17 years down the line, to make a sound judgement - why talk at abstract level which only goes round in circles with no logical end? It has been empirically proven that Nepal was far better off during king's rule than under rule of corrupt netas. What has democarcy given us - the comman people - except plenty of miseries?

Democracy has only been a godsend to corrupt netas for it is them who have benefitted the most by amassing collossol wealth through nefarious means at the expense of the country and the people. And look at how an equally corrupt judiciary aquits them one after the another making a right mockery of the judicial system. Recently, the people involved in the Lauda scandal were also exonerated of wrongdoing. The list goes on.

Oh, in case you didn't know, the SPAM govt has decided to drop criminal charges against all maoists from top level leaders such as Prachanda and Baburam Bhattarai to low level cadres including the decision to legitimize the 40 odd stolen vehicles used by maoists leaders. That's democarcy for you Nepali style - the netas literally have a free hand to do as they please.

Some of you say that the virtue of democracy is the option people have to vote corrupt netas out. I have heard this argument innumerable times but I wonder why that hasn't happened? Girija has been elected as primeminister for the sixth time despite his notoriety. The same corrupt netas manage to win elections again and again and again. It's the same corrupt netas who become ministers for the umpteenth time.

Also, some of you say that democracy takes time to get better. I wouldn't mind giving democracy enough time to evolve but what is happening is that things are getting even more worse as time goes by. It has been a steep downhill journey since day one.
At least there has to be signs of improvement and then probably we could be a little more patient. But where are the signs of things getting better? Things are getting from bad to worse. So, I don't buy that argument. That argument is flawed. Look at the democracies of South Asia, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh and for that matter democracies in third world countries; they are all sorry stories. In order for a democracy to work certain fundamentals have to be in place otherwise it can be malignant

"Why not simply kick monarchy out with a two thirds majority of the interim Parliament - as there is reason to believe that palace is covertly behind many of the mayhems in the Terai? Historically, people never wanted this Shah monarchy in the first place- it was thrust on them through conquest? It didn't come through a democratic entrance, why should the exit have to be made democratic?"
Too philosophical too political....

one small step for Girija ( started with bhote jatra).
One giant step for Maoist (towards cultural revolution perhaps).

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Damn, missed Haddock's rebuttal...Been too busy and won't be able to provide a rebuttal to Haddock's rebuttal today as am swamped. Look out for it on Monday (time permitting). Ciao Have a great wkend all!!

Will the CA poll take place?
If yes, will it be fair?
If CA favors monarchy what happens?
If CA rejects monarchy what happens?
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Questions are countless. The only thing certain is chaos is about to rule Nepal for a while. We've not seen nothing yet, I think.

Chaos:
Whether the CA poll takes place or not.
Whether it will be fair or not.
Whether CA favors monarchy or not.

Gyanendra, GPK, MKN, PKD ..etc all have their a**es on the line now. All these khasis may skip one dashain but the comming ones won't spare them. General public wants something tangible, beneficial, and quick and all these khasis have just one thing "aswasan". They keep backing up their aswasan by khokro naras. People are sick of such aswasans.

Democracy is going to prevail, though. But we all should buckle up for a rough ride for the time being.