meek_misfit
Replies to this thread:
More by meek_misfit
What people are reading
Subscribers
Please log in to subscribe to meek_misfit's postings.
:: Subscribe
|
[VIEWED 4370
TIMES]
|
SAVE! for ease of future access.
|
|
|
meek_misfit
Please log in to subscribe to meek_misfit's postings.
Posted on 02-21-07 12:36
AM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
Source: http://www.nepalmonitor.com/2007/01/special_edit_the_mad.html Not Again. But again. That is the Nepali condition. Nepal's Maoists, in power now, showed violence pays, at least to grab power. That appears to have become a valuable lesson for other powerless groups in the country. The world was watching Nepal closely, if not the big media or policy honks, the so-called globe-huggers and mountain-climbers. Despite some reservations on the real intentions of the Maoists, there was some hope that the country was finally inching toward a sustainable peace-process. The king was subdued, the United Nations offered help to oversee the transition process, including the constituent assembly elections in June 2007, and the Maoists even joined the parliament. But we now see that peace is in jeopardy. Just less than 2 months after the historic November 21 agreement between the Seven Party Alliance (SPA) and the Maoists, we are seeing the revival of violence, and possibly a very disturbing scenario in the central plains of Terai. It’s déjà vu all over again. Numerous clashes among the Maoists, JTMM cadres, and government forces have been reported. Media reports say that at least 8 people have been killed in less than two weeks. There is virtual curfew in key towns in the region, paralyzed by general-strikes. The poor handling of the communal clash in Nepalgunj in December, in which security forces were seen aiding Pahades in their quest of destroying the homes and properties of Madhesis, was an indication of the days to come. Quickly the fire spread to Lahan, Birgunj, Janakpur and other towns populated by Madhesis. That was feared long ago. In these times of anti-monarchy, we cannot even mention when. Remember the slogan that said only monarchy can serve national unity and integrity in a multicultural country like Nepal? That might have been a wrong proposition all along; nonetheless it was a well-known fear for generations. And the fear was expressed recently by others too. Only on January 9, the United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon had warned that the debate over the country’s political future could swiftly exacerbate ethnic, regional, linguistic tensions. Rather than working together and making the best of the diversity, we are trying to create discord and thereby pushing the country into chaos. The “we†is an elaborate mix of varied and complex identities in a country that is heterogeneous ethnically and linguistically. In these times of extreme polarization and historic power-tussles, that “we†also includes an amalgamation of anger, frustration, egos, and pride of many Nepalis that want to be heard, no matter how (even if it means, as in the case of a section of Madhesi cause, abandoning your link to the Nepali nation). Hence these are also confusing times, when the mainstream media can’t tell what is mainstream anymore (since yesterday’s margin has now become the center), when bloggers assume the role of informed punditry (because news is no different from views any longer in this age of customized content), and when the youthful energy of many is spent mostly on creating street propaganda via protests and agitations (since fieldwork and collaboration can be demanding), it is often difficult to identify truth from falsehood. Still, the government must have responded quickly to Madhesi voices. The PM did not have to wait to give a national address on the issue until his top minister resigned to protest his inaction. Branding the new rebels as “criminals and gangsters†unworthy of negotiation, as the Maoist leader Pushpa Kamal Dahal (aka Prachanda) did, only provided more credence to the claim that Kathmandu’s predominantly Pahade establishment discriminated the Terains of Indian-origin. One can understand the former rebel’s hatred against his rebels. The new rebels, Jai Krishna Goit, the leader of Janatantrik Terai Mukti Morcha (JTMM) or People's Terai Liberation Front, and Jwala Singh, who leads a splinter faction with a similar name, both broke away from Prachanda’s Maoist party some 2 and half years ago. But how long should the politics of personal hatred continue in Nepal? We saw much of that between political parties, Maoists and monarchy. There are genuine concerns expressed by some that the new rebels are merely the extensions of the “regressive elements†or that they serve the interest of New Delhi or the Indian Hindu extremists. But such speculations, not uncommon as regards the Maoists during their revolt, helps more to fuel the conflict than to end it. The focus must be on the demands of the rebels. Most of their grievances look genuine. If other parties insist on principle and do not budge an inch, why shouldn’t the Madhesis point out that interim constitution does not ensure their fare share in the new Nepal? Why should not the Madhes region get more electoral constituencies when the region is more populated than the hills? How can the system be fair when there is rampant discrimination in hiring Madhesis in the national administration, army and bureaucracy? The Madhesi demand for adequate representation in the constituent assembly, citizenship to all (genuine) Madhesis, cessation of Maoist atrocities and return of seized lands; compensation to Madhesi martyrs also seem reasonable. What is troubling about the Madhesi movement is its separatist leaning. The proliferation of pro-Madhesi liberation or independence websites on the cyberspace has been staggering in the past few weeks. Nepal Monitor has received emails from groups, such as madhesi.net and madhesh.com, which seem to ardently champion the Madhesi cause (but sorry, we do not publish releases). There are many sites out there, however, that are preaching hatred and appear to carry content that are overtly provocative in nature. What is important at this critical hour is no Nepali in good conscience should want the country to be fragmented. How practical does it sound to have 50 politically independent nations in the Himalayas that will be landlocked and mountain-locked (and at the end, mentally-locked, perhaps)? There are already other rebellious groups, such as Limbuwan Federal Republic, and the Newa Mukti Morcha, (and countless other less known nationality groups based on scores of linguistic and ethnic communities). Autonomy? Yes. All groups should be provided autonomy based on a broad political consensus. This cannot happen overnight, however. Ethnicities and regionalism do not always mean the same thing as they might have several hundred years ago. Where exactly is Madhesh, or Limbuwan today, for example? Where will the so-called Bahuns or Chhetris go? We must not prepare a ground for massive depopulation measures to serve our xenophobic interests. The government, rebels and potential future rebels should show a democratic commitment to their cause by adhering to peaceful means of solving problems. They must focus not on difference, but on commonalities that enable the needed forward movement. In fact, to set the table straight and to explore for lasting solutions, the government must immediately organize a roundtable of all ethnic groups or nationalities and listen to their grievances and advice. Otherwise, the stakes are very high in an increasingly polarized Nepal.
|
|
|
|
vowels2006
Please log in to subscribe to vowels2006's postings.
Posted on 02-21-07 9:35
AM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
u r 101% right, meek misfit..............................
|
|
|
houstonguru
Please log in to subscribe to houstonguru's postings.
Posted on 02-21-07 9:39
AM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
Where are A$$hol Bahuns? The fkkcking Indian Babu haru.
|
|
|
Hary in FedEx
Please log in to subscribe to Hary in FedEx's postings.
Posted on 02-21-07 10:49
AM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
Jaya Nepal Congratulation for Discovering this fact.......BCaz i was working on these Stupid Orgasm of Gyanendra and Katuwal since Long time. Their Zin is not original nepalese ,it original frm Bihar... By the way thnx for providing the truth abt these mandale and Bibhisan. Let me know ,if u need any help frm me to kick these Mother *Ucker's Ass frm Bothside. Cheers Dude, Mandale's and vaiya's Time is almost Over....
|
|
|
houstonguru
Please log in to subscribe to houstonguru's postings.
Posted on 02-21-07 10:57
AM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
fedex bhaiya; ship urself to Hisila's pu$$y.
|
|
|
meek_misfit
Please log in to subscribe to meek_misfit's postings.
Posted on 02-21-07 11:32
AM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
Good work dudes keep it up.
|
|
|
thopa
Please log in to subscribe to thopa's postings.
Posted on 02-21-07 11:44
AM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
was the topic of discussion is about bahun ? what the fu(k bahun has done to u bitchhh? what the fu(k u really they have done to you and you are blaming them ? my last name is so called "bahun" , but am I bahun ? what the fu(k have I done to get ur such dislike and hatred towards bahuns. I agree they (old generation, i.e here i can say my seniors) impose certain rules on caste, centuries and centuries before, but my friend houstonguru i am with long nose but not with hatred towrds my own heritage here. Houstonguru I think you are Madhise bhai from nepal, an indian agent, mission break nepal apart. I pitty for you, for having such a hatred towards your own mother land. again to the bahun topic See me as an example here I am bahun, i do have many other caste friends, when i was building friendship with them, i didn't see their last names. I was friends with all of them. WWe live in society, we have neighbours, my closest neighbour Madhesi, we welcome them in our house, we went to their wedding parties, we had good relationship, I never thought I am superior than them. I thought they are my friends and my helping hands when i need their help, they need my help, i helped them. My other neighbour was Newar. He was from patan but he used to live near our house you know why ? so that he can joke with my dad everyday, That newar uncle really liked my dad, and they had good friendship. we never thought he speaks newari, my dad used to speak with him in newari. I was proud that my dad knows newari. Those are only few examples, ( i am feeling lazy to write more) I had friends who were told by the system that they are of low cast. I never thought, I never bring that to my mind, we were friends, not bahuns and sarkis. When i bring them home for group study at my house my mom used to talk with them, make tea for them and she never ask me why i bring them in our house. MY sisters best friend she comes to our dinner table, my dad everytime he sees her, he ask how is her family ? how is her dad, mom and all that. My dad had one tailor, he is dead now, (may his soul rest in peace), when he(tailor) was alive my dad he never went to another tailors shop. dad said he is his friends, he was damai, by the ranking you have given on humans. Yes we do have some problems, but it was that kind of change where you have to change your hearts. and I changed my way of thinking about other human. I don't see them as newar, rai, limbu, i see them as nepali working for the peace and progress. US is the place where you say you are free ? Doesn't here race prevails ? where there is diviation of humans into black, white, Brown, is there really freedom? where we divide ourselfves as white, black and brown. Is that the freedom you want ? Black and white are not fighting here with weapons, they are debating, they are reforming, they are getting aware, It takes time, Passion. Still they are debating is OBAMA black enough ? How much is black is black enough? HOW MUCH IS BAHUN ? do i fill the category of bahun huh houstonguru ? so race still prevails, but we try to understand each other not by killing each other but by knowing each other, by loving each other. Yeah I had newar GF, she was hotter than these goris in US. Houstonguru on personal note if i come face to face with you in my life and know that you are the guy with nick "Houstonguru" take a note, if u don't remember, you are fu(ked, Houstonguru, Was the topic of discussin bahun ? I still wonder. yeah those who hate my pride nepal, i hate them. They are the enemies, no enemies on my land. Thopa
|
|
|
houstonguru
Please log in to subscribe to houstonguru's postings.
Posted on 02-21-07 12:15
PM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
Thopa Bhaiya: I am sadistic towards pahades because they started discrimination in Nepal. And, you will know me very shory--maybe you already know--if you read blogs. Second, you are not in a level to reach me. My points and demands are realistic. I am not favoring the partition as well, but if you want to be ruled by "Terrorists" and "So-called leaders", I demand for Madhesh. Monarchy is not a choice, it is a need. 2-3 years ago, I was also very honest and simple guy. Today, I hate South Asians. it is the feedback that you have input in me. Jai Nepal
|
|
|
thopa
Please log in to subscribe to thopa's postings.
Posted on 02-21-07 12:29
PM
Reply
[Subscribe]
|
Login in to Rate this Post:
0
?
|
|
The real descrimination of humans by caste system in our part of land i.e. south asia started from india. No doubt on it. Indians they always had influence on nepal and they used their influence to create such culture in our territory too. I don't read your blogs. Is there anything to read? Indians they are the problems in our part of land. If indians wiped out of this planet then there would be real hope of us nepal getting up on its own feet. Until India is next to our border nepal always remains on political turmoil. Houstonguru an indian agent working with extremist indian hindu group, these extremist were always problem on eradicating india's caste system, they are like virus in our society, we need to have some kind of norton antivirus. and that antivirus is with me. india has economic growth more than 8% and still billions of people are below poverty level, why ? cause of this caste system indians created. Indians Made problem is eating up nepal now. Indians they were always a problem and remain a problem. So, plz houstonguru stop ur business of killing people and selling theirs bones to ur boss inside narayanhiti palace.
|
|
Please Log in! to be able to reply! If you don't have a login, please register here.
YOU CAN ALSO
IN ORDER TO POST!
Within last 200 days
Recommended Popular Threads |
Controvertial Threads |
ChatSansar.com Naya Nepal Chat |
TPS Re-registration case still pending .. |
Toilet paper or water? |
Anybody gotten the TPS EAD extension alert notice (i797) thing? online or via post? |
Sajha Poll: Who is your favorite Nepali actress? |
Problems of Nepalese students in US |
ढ्याउ गर्दा दसैँको खसी गनाउच |
nrn citizenship |
अमेरिकामा बस्ने प्राय जस्तो नेपालीहरु सबै मध्यम बर्गीय अथवा माथि (higher than middle class) |
TPS EAD auto extended to June 2025 or just TPS? |
whats wrong living with your parents ? |
Ajay Kumar Dev sentenced to 378 yrs |
Travelling to Nepal - TPS AP- PASSPORT |
Mamta kafle bhatt is still missing |
Why Americans reverse park? |
TPS advance parole Travel document i-131, Class of Admission ? |
Now Trump is a convicted criminal . |
TPS Work Permit/How long your took? |
Nepali Passport Renewal |
मन भित्र को पत्रै पत्र! |
|
|
NOTE: The opinions
here represent the opinions of the individual posters, and not of Sajha.com.
It is not possible for sajha.com to monitor all the postings, since sajha.com merely seeks to provide a cyber location for discussing ideas and concerns related to Nepal and the Nepalis. Please send an email to admin@sajha.com using a valid email address
if you want any posting to be considered for deletion. Your request will be
handled on a one to one basis. Sajha.com is a service please don't abuse it.
- Thanks.
|